Conversations and Voices

June 17, 2007

I spoke with my sister today. She called at half past one, a couple of hours after I got up. I was still feeling kind of spacey, so I could tell my conversation was a bit off. Stumbling over words. Jabbering slightly about how my treatment sucks.

“You don’t hear voices or anything like that?” she asked.

“Uh… not really,” I said.

I do sometimes hear voices. Rarely. I heard some last night. This was after I’d turned the lights out, but before the process of sleep had started. They weren’t hypnogogic. I had my eyes open and was wide awake. There were many different voices, some male, some female, some not readily identifiable as either. The things they said weren’t particularly relevant or disturbing. It was like fragments of conversation. And I was in no doubt that they were no more real than any other imagined thing, even though the process of imagining them wasn’t apparent to me. I didn’t pay them much notice. The accompanying visual show when I closed my eyes was kind of disturbing, but as I was trying to get to sleep this could have been more hypnogogic in nature. Mostly faces, some kind of monstrous. But it didn’t worry me and I don’t see why it should.

I don’t think this kind of thing is any more pathalogical than the strange music I hear in white noise sometimes. The occasions when I have been confused between a real voice and an imagined voice have involved hearing my name called. I’ve found that when this has happened, I’m usually able to trigger it again. There’s a definite difference between imagining a voice and hearing it said, and knowing that I was able to consciously generate both experiences was something of a relief.

I didn’t explain all this to my sister. I think she was trying to ask if I was schizophrenic. I told her that lots of people who aren’t ill hear voices occasionally. It’s not pathological. It only becomes pathological when the ability to distinguish between real and non-real is diminished or it starts interfering with everyday life.

I’m not sure whether the perceptual shifts that I experience are relevant symptoms. I don’t think they’re common experiences. Certainly when I was looking in the mirror while my sweet-and-sour microwave dinner rotated in the microwave, it was weird to see my face deform. I’d probably be more worried about it if I hadn’t had similar experiences while tripping. The feeling that every action I take is contrived is more worrying. The feeling of being an actor in your own life, of everything being no thicker than a strip of celluloid is uncomfortable. It also happens to be a prelude to self-harm, although the feelings have to continue for days for me to get to that point. Cutting then is a way of exiting and existing again.

And despite all this, the event that seems to have preyed most on my mind today was a girl working in the shop down the road chatting to me. I’m looking fairly decent thanks to my recent bursts of activity. I’m wearing a shirt. I look far less crazy than I did a couple of weeks ago. But the first thoughts that ran through my head were “What does she want from me?” Deep suspicion. But then the automatic systems take over, because responding weirdly to conversation draws attention. Maintain neutral body posture. Make reasonable responses. Smile politely. Replace attempts at real emotional connection with the false persona. It’s a way of hiding in plain sight.

I think she was just being friendly, rather than there being any underlying motivation to her attempts to engage me in conversation. And honestly, what response could I have given to “I’m looking forward to going down the pub later for a couple of drinks and a smoke.”? Somehow the honest response doesn’t seem appropriate: “Sounds fun, but I’m not allowed to drink at the moment because I’m currently being treated for a sleep disorder you’ve never heard of. Incidentally, I’m crazy, too.”

(On further analysis, that seems like an line looking for a response of “I know what you mean. Where are you heading? I’m going out later, myself. Maybe I’ll see you there.” Smile. Take receipt. Walk away. Then again, I’m not exactly the master of social subtext, so I may well be wrong. And it’s all fairly academic anyway.)

Entry Filed under: Uncategorized. Tags: .

5 Comments Add your own

  • 1. Izzy  |  June 17, 2007 at 6:53 pm

    If doctors knew what they were doing half the time, I’d bring up the point that the psychiatrists and therapists could probably create a program teaching people proper social skills for the context of their situation for use when they’re feeling like you did. But they don’t, and so it would probably do more harm than good.
    (I spent five minutes trying to think of a proper situation to write out, but hell, nothing’s coming.)

    I have a lot of trouble with hypnopompia; the last time I woke up like that, I couldn’t move (well, like always) but I hear music that I would swear was the dulcet tunes of INXS. I tried to lift my head to listen closer, but as soon as I could move again, the music had left.

    It’s good you’re wearing shirts again -grins- —society likes pretending nothing is wrong, and being shirtless makes ignorance for the masses difficult.

  • 2. experimental chimp  |  June 17, 2007 at 7:35 pm

    Izzy: I actually have decent social skills when I’m not busy shutting people out. Paranoia in social situations tends to take over, though.

    I’ve only really had one truly disturbing hypnopompic experience, which was of the sleep paralysis variety. “Oh god, I can’t breathe or scream and I’m going to die. This is such a stupid way to die. Heeeeeeeeeelp!” And then I could breathe again.

    Oh, and that’s shirts as opposed to t-shirts.

  • 3. patientanonymous  |  June 18, 2007 at 7:10 pm

    I’m not sure if I read all of that correctly but are you hearing voices/music outside of your sleep states (hypnogogic, hypnopompic) etc…? Again, not to harp on the whole Bipolar business but Schizophrenics haven’t cornered the market on hallucinatory and delusional behaviour. It can happen with us Bipolar folk too.

    Not so much with me (re: hallucinations.) Just *once* I took some ephedrine that was in OTC cold pills (which is not recommended with some people who have Bipolar) and I swear I started hearing this weird music out of nowhere. Never had an auditory hallucination in my life.

  • 4. experimental chimp  |  June 18, 2007 at 10:35 pm

    PA: Yes. I hear music in white noise on a fairly regular basis. Sometimes the white noise isn’t needed, but it’s usually there. It confused me when it started happening (when I was 14 or so), but I’m used to it now. I should probably clarify, the music I hear isn’t music I’ve heard before. Some of it’s quite good.

    The voices thing is rarer, and usually happens when I’m tired but not asleep.

  • 5. patientanonymous  |  June 19, 2007 at 11:12 pm

    Interesting. What I heard with the ephedrine weirdness wasn’t perhaps what you could even classify as “music” at all–unless it was some interesting form of experimental *something*…so I know from at least one experience that yes, not something you are familiar with.

    I also recall when being really tired and driving “seeing” things like what I thought were people on the road when they actually weren’t there. I’m fairly sure that some types of visual “hallucinations” are quite common when sleep deprived? Voices? I’m not sure but why not?

Leave a Comment

Required

Required, hidden

Some HTML allowed:
<a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <code> <pre> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <q cite=""> <strike> <strong>

Trackback this post  |  Subscribe to the comments via RSS Feed


Hi, I'm James. I'm a 26 year old guy from England with bipolar disorder (currently well controlled). I also have a circadian rhythm sleep disorder (not so well controlled). This blog has charted my journey from mental illness, through diagnosis and, recently, into recovery. It's not always easy, but then, what is?

Contact the Chimp

experimental.chimp@googlemail.com
aim: experimentalchim
yahoo: experimentalchimp
icq: 451957136

Top Posts

Recent Comments

brainistheweapon on On codeine
Alice on On Suicide
Phil on Work focused interview 3
Gyula Lorincz on Lithium Orotate: Just a dietar…
Fucked Up on Suicidal?

Links

Archives

Self-righteous note about smoking

As of 12th September 2008 it has been forty five weeks since I quit smoking. So in another seven weeks it'll have been a whole year.

Meta